Episode 132. A Talk with Fred Provenza. Part 2

This episode is the second of two featuring a conversation between Kara Kroeger, a sustainable agriculture specialist with NCAT’s ATTRA sustainable-agriculture program, and Fred Provenza. Fred is a well-known author and expert on animal health, human health, plant health, and how they are related – as well as their role in the care of ecosystems.

Kara works out of NCAT’s Southwest Regional Office in San Antonio, Texas. The conversation took place at the recent 2019 Regenerate Conference in Albuquerque, New Mexico, hosted by the Quivira Coalition, Holistic Management International, and the American Grassfed Association. There may be a bit of background noise, but the conversation is well worth it.

In the last episode, Kara and Fred talked in-depth about the importance of the quality and diversity of foods for animals and humans, and how important the relationships between particular foods are. Be sure to check out that part of the conversation if you haven’t yet. Today’s episode begins with pasture management and covers a wide range of practical and philosophical areas.

For more information on this topic, you can contact Kara Kroeger directly at karak@ncat.org.

Related ATTRA Resources:

A Talk with Fred Provenza, Part 1

Soil Health Innovations Conference

Livestock and Pasture

Other Resources:

Quivira Coalition

Holistic Management International

The American Grassfed Association

Behavioral Education for Human Animal Vegetation and Ecosystem Management


The Art and Science of Shepherding

Is Grassfed Meat and Dairy Better for Human and Environmental Health?

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The National Center for Appropriate Technology, in cooperation with USDA Rural Development, Montana State University, and Western Sustainable Agriculture Research and Education (WSARE), is pleased to announce the 1st Annual Soil Health Innovations Conference. This national conference will be held at Montana State University on March 30 and 31, 2020.

The 2020 Soil Health Innovations Conference will bring together producers, industry professionals, educators, and students who are at the cutting edge of soil health across the country: On-farm practices, soil biology, carbon markets, and public policy. Join us for a far-reaching exploration of agriculture’s sustainable future.

For more information and to register go to https://soilinnovations.ncat.org/